Trump's supposedly going to denounce birtherism. Will the media wash his hands for him?

I have a feeling many Trump supporters would agree with you. Calling out his bullshit has been very effective, just not in the way we would have liked.

You should watch the latest episode of SouthPark.

Really sucks that only cartoons are calling people out these days.

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Thanks for reposting this. In response to the larger question of the thread - yes they will.

And I’ll post this link again, of Trump out and out lying about an event he spoke at in Flint:

http://www.npr.org/2016/09/15/494064219/trump-criticizes-flint-pastor-but-misstates-key-facts-about-their-encounter?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=storiesfromnpr

NYT has the video and you can see the pastor also asks the audience to pipe down and let him talk. The pastor was in the right here.

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You’re not the only one, I promise. Lately, nothing makes any sense.

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I know what you’re saying, but in this situation it’s everyone’s responsibility.

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To be fair, Fallon isn’t there to be a journalist, he’s an entertainer. I think most late night talk show hosts steer clear of politics, because they don’t want to alienate their audience. Whether that’s the right thing to do or not, is another matter.

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Dude, do you ever have any positive contributions to the discussion, or is it just contrariness, all the way down?

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I keep saying the same damn thing again and again. Bring on the debates.

The problem is … does it matter? Can anyone who hasn’t been swayed by this point be swayed by anything???

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No, I agree, I’m not really blaming Fallon here. As Akimbo says, that’s what you get with Jimmy Fallon – silliness, puff pieces, and lots of hugging and laughter and goofy games. He’s an entertainer. I would never expect him to “get tough” or “call his BS”. And the conservative media has been gleeful in watching places like HuffPo scream about how much he made viewers love Trump last night.

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It isn’t dead, it’s just busy delivering precisely what the audience wants.

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“Trump says outrageous thing, details at 11” doesn’t count as calling Trump out. That’s the kind of coverage he thrives on.

“Trump repeats incindiary lie, here is the objectively verifiable truth in full context” would be calling Trump out, but that’s the kind of coverage most media has actively avoided engaging in for fear of being labeled “biased.”

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Did you ever happen to read the Dead Zone by Stephen King?

I swear, some people seem like they need the Greater Evil to directly channel the antagonist of that novel, George Stillson, before they wake the fuck up.

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It isn’t fear of being labeled biased, it’s fear of losing their audience. It’s a business decision.

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They are being swayed. Just not the way we’d like. I have no idea how people could be on the fence, but evidently some are.

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Thanks - I was going to post that myself. Yes, Jimmy Fallon is spineless. He’ll have Clinton on soon enough - and he’ll be just as nice to her.

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Paraphrasing a comment I saw today:

Hitler: Good to be here Jimmy!

Fallon: So glad that you could make it here tonight! So, let’s talk about your book!

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Trump’s got a powerful SEP field.

Fallon’s complicit in whatever Trump does, now. He may just be a comedian, but when you’re given an interview with a monster, you don’t laugh with him, you laugh at him. Not everybody has the power to get Trump to sit down with a conversation with them, and those who don’t use that power responsibly are being awful, regardless of their positive intentions.

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I called it before he even came on. “He will not ask a single difficult question”.

Either he’s not preparing for the debates, or he’s lying when he says he’s not preparing for the debates. He’s such an egomaniac – emboldened by how well he’s doing despite winging it – that he’ll try to wing it. He should go down in flames, or … people will pounce on Hillary. What we need is real journalists who can stand up and say “This isn’t The Apprentice – this is for the Presidency of the United States. You cannot vote for a guy who thinks Mexicans are rapists, women are property, bypasses rules, won’t release his tax returns, buddies up with Putin, etc etc etc”

Ages ago I vowed to not post anything election related to facebook. It’s getting harder and harder to stick with that. I nearly made this my facebook cover photo w/o commentary.

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In Hillary’s defense for accepting that invitation, she had no way of knowing whether or not this would be her last chance to attend a Trump wedding.

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