Watch: Arizona man so outraged over people wearing masks he has to be carted out of store, toddler-style

Absolutely, but I suspect if the son is still associating with that human, that would be a difficult situation. I’m reasonably sure the yelling fool would be even more abusive to his own family.

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True, although I’m having great difficulty imagining anyone that’s not an entitled angry white person like this fool yelling at people in public like this. (That said, it seems like a better option would be for the store to deal with him, with the best case ending in a ban.)

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Fair point, though there’s assholes in every demographic.

I’m just saying that no matter what the problem is, “calling the police” is always gonna be my dead last option - non-humorous pun fully intended.

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I wonder what the conversation was once Big Daddy settled down, and had his brain back in order.

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That assumes he ever did, and had. Which is far from certain.

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There are a lot of deniers here in KY, sadly, because we have been so very lucky with the numbers. That said, we broke over 1000 cases a day this week. Reality will be setting in soon.

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One of the people I supervise at work is, despite being reasonable and rational in most other ways, a COVID denier. His stated position is that he doesn’t believe all the statistics being reported. I haven’t dug deeper on why he doesn’t believe 150,000 Americans are dead because I am his manager and work is not really the place for that. But it disturbs me to no end and I have to change the subject when he brings it up.

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The few coworkers I have who are like that believe it is simply that listing covid-positive on your death certificate means you get counted as a covid death, regardless of why you really died. Run over by a car, suicide, died of cancer, whatever, they think all the normal deaths are being counted as covid deaths if the person tests positive.

P.S. I work at a hospital.

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Ugh. The dark thing about that is that (as you no doubt know) COVID deaths are being underreported for that reason. Comorbidities like COVID-triggered cardiac events resulting in death are not being counted as COVID deaths, from what I’ve read.

Also thank you for working in a hospital. Folks like you are the heroes in all this.

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I know a guy who lives on a pot farm up on salt sprin Island off the Vancouver coast.

He doesn’t believe covid is real. Although he’s not left the farm in literally 40 years. So I feel he really doesn’t have a position of understanding the world in general.

Found a pot farm when he was 20, and never left.

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Not even for Twinkies, or Funyuns?

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Nah. There’s other people to do that. But he’s NOT DEPENDENT MIND.

“I DON’T FAWKN PAY TAXES CAUSE THE FAWKIN GOVERNMENT ARE CROOKS AND DON’T DO NUTHIN FER ME. AIN’T NO BUSINESS I HAVE WITH THE GOVERNMENT, THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS WITH ME.”

He says after his free government provided telemedicine appointment, and then takes his free government provided blood pressure meds. He tells me over the government built internet.

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I think in the end we will find a ton of people whose strokes and embolisms are directly connected to Covid. There are a lot of weird blood clotting issues involved with the disease, and without respiratory symptoms, they weren’t being tested. When the statistics for this year come out, I think we are going to see particular causes of death that skyrocketed and weren’t counted.

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Yeah, I have no doubt about that. My wife’s family is protected in part because they’re in sparsely populated areas, but that is no guarantee and likely won’t last. I am more worried about my mother-in-law, who is in a nursing home, but as far as we can tell the nursing home management has taken this seriously from the start.

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That’s a good thing. We have seen upticks in rural counties, but part of the problem is emergent cases are being sent to the larger trauma centers, so there’s a question as to whether the numbers were being assigned to the right county in previous months.

Take care, there a lot of the old folks out in the country that may let things go too long to get to the hospital. I wish you all the best.

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I was in line at the local CA DMV the other day. You had to show up hours before it opened and try to secure one of the 200 walk in slots available. I wore a mask while outside as did 99.9% of other people. The line began to move after 1 1/2 hours and I had to respectfully request that the younger couple* behind me maintain their distance instead of the 18" that they were keeping.

There is a lot of stuff we don’t know about this virus, and I’m not going to gamble that I may be one of the lucky people who have mild symptoms. I agree with @DukeTrout: People need to wear a mask when they are anywhere near other people and they need to keep their distance–inside and outside.

*“Gentleman” behind them tried to tell me it was all a hoax and asked me, “You don’t believe the government, do you?” I told him that I believe the government over some random crackpot who’s standing in line at the DMV. It was the first time he’d been quiet all morning. :smirk:

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That’s kind of a confusing question. Which government? Crackpots like himself are also believing the government. Just not the government that governs.

Makes me wonder if they don’t actually see Trump as “Government”, rather as some friendly uncle who wanders into press conferences to set the record straight, or something.

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In California, this means Newsom.

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This is a depressingly likely explanation, although to be fair, I don’t consider him an actual president either, so I guess we’re even on that.

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