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Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

Here’s the very picture of iconoclasm - a bunch of old white Mormon elders rocking kente cloth neckties in Africa. It could be a scene straight out of The Book of Mormon… [image] http://thesmithsinafrica.blogspot.com/

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

Here’s one about a Marine not being allowed to walk during graduation because they wanted to wear their Dress-blues.

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

There is a difference between a private affair, like a wedding, and a public school graduation, yeah? I didn’t find the guys kente cloth to be anywhere near the same thing as wearing shorts and flip-flops to a formal wedding. Maybe he didn’t think it would be a problem, since he was indeed wearing his cap and gown, as required for the ceremony.

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

I suspect that had another student worn something they viewed as violating the dress code, and they asked him to remove it, and the student did not comply, the reaction would have been the same, though in the absence of an example we will not know. Why do you suspect that this situation would be handled no differently if a white kid had done the same thing? Have you not seen any of the numerous studies that show how very different the disciplinary treatment of black students and others is? I…

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

The question is on what non-arbitrary and not-first-amendment-violating basis do you exclude the swastika and accept the African heritage indicator? That’s the question to be answered. One is hatred the other is pride. Question answered, right?

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

Isn’t this precisely what happened in this case - the supression of constitutionally protected speech? The school wanted to enforce their dress code, in their capacity as a public authority. And they called in a cop to eject the kid from his own graduation. Someone could have allowed it, because it was not offensive in anyway nor was it distracting. But instead, they called the cops. The likelihood of this happening to others not conforming to the dress is likely rather low, I’d guess. I do ob…

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

Right? Isn’t that the real question here, why were the cops called in the first place and is that connected to the race of the young man in question?

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

Could you point me to something I’ve said that brings you to that “fact”?

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

I’ll give you a hint: other than asking you to point out what I’d said that made you come up with your version of reality, I had posted only twice in this thread. Specific info on how to fix something in a post, and After @anon15383236 had asked the same question repeatedly and gotten no substantive response. Kind of like how I asked you a specific question twice and still have gotten no response. I know you think that means we’re all in awe of your power and control, but no.

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

Enforcing racist rules is still racist. Race is not merely a function of the melanin content of one’s skin. Indeed, it’s far more about heritage. The student was ejected for displaying his. You can say he was ejected for not getting prior approval to display his heritage, and perhaps he was, but the rule requiring him to do so is still racist, and thus so is enforcing it. You can say the administrators were just enforcing the rules, and perhaps they were at that, but do you want to live in a wo…

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

Okay, irl I do the same things

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

Do you think LEOs should have been called to drag him out of there? And do you agree that it’s more likely that happened because he’s black?

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

Let him graduate. If someone has a problem with my decision, I can handle the weight more than a student. And then … dance off. [image]

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

I somehow forgot about the ones that @RogerStrong had posted… This was me coming back to this thread… [image]

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

I’ll spell it out this time because wow. Holy fucken shit. Let’s see, will the Native Americans be wearing headdresses and building teepees on the stage of this fever dream? I’m sure people of color would run amok on graduation stages everywhere if left to their own devices, oh the colors, oh the humanity. Maybe just this once, the people who are being honored can pick their own clothing and adornments? Or are we back to the collapse of higher education and/or society?

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

What does this have to do with anything?!?! We aren’t talking about this kids prospects in the business world, but hey, if we were you’d be right. Getting a job while black is a lot harder than getting a job while white. Would that ‘southern heritage’ make any African American students in attendance feel unwelcome?

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

I know honor cords are often fine, and they are >70 inches in length. They’re not hat tassles. They drape over both shoulders, Eagle Scouts are encouraged to wear a red white and blue one. Thousands of them, annually. It’s a thing, everywhere. There are other honor cords as well. Stoles are also not uncommon, while often reserved for faculty or alumni, they are not exclusively though. I’d not want to see the battle flag of a national enemy such as ISIS or North Korea represented in a graduation…

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

Also, you should know that there is a long history, which continues to right this second, of racism within law enforcement,. This is not really conjecture of our part. it’s a pretty well-established historical and current fact of life in the US. See for example on the role of race in the modern prison system, which you can read about in this book: http://newjimcrow.com/ So, while the individual who called the police on an 18 year old for wearing cloth to a graduation ceremony might not have ha…

Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

I heard about this in high school, met some people in college who said this, but did not grok it. What I did do was recognize that this is what everyone smarter than me believed, and took it on faith. As a now 40s white guy, I am fucking astonished on a daily basis how this culture is built for exactly me. Holy crap people. Take it from me, it is great to be 40something and white in America, even on little money. Not bragging. I see how bad it is out there for so many. What I do for work brings…

The naked hypocrisy of Game Of Thrones’ nudity

It has always seemed to me to be more hypocritical to insinuate nudity while hiding bodies, instead of being straightforward about showing it. Hint #1: all people are nude under their clothes, and we don’t really need to be so concerned about the times when those clothes are off. Hint #2: men like to look at naked women, and its not a character flaw. Presumably, if the country wasn’t so unrelentingly prudish about bodily functions, nudity would cease to be remarkable. Hint #3: women like to loo…

The naked hypocrisy of Game Of Thrones’ nudity

No hypocrisy, it’s just your puritanism that is hurt. I love the whore scenes

The naked hypocrisy of Game Of Thrones’ nudity

You know, you CAN like something, and understand the problems with it. I love GOT, even as I understand that there is some sexism in the show’s depiction of women. Liking GOT doesn’t make you a bad person, even disagreeing with the point of the article doesn’t make you a bad person. Basically, what @daneel said. So because men “evolved” to be sexually attracted to women, we shouldn’t point out the power dynamics involved in that and how it tends to lead to women being treated as objects? That …

The naked hypocrisy of Game Of Thrones’ nudity

He’s texting with his sweetie north of the wall… I wonder how reception is up there… [image]

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Student ejected from ceremony for graduating while black

At my daughter’s high school graduation I noticed quite a few things. Lots of kente cloths. Didn’t disrupt my ability to enjoy the ceremony. I also saw a person, who was clearly born male, dressed in the white robes the females were wearing. Didn’t disrupt my ability to enjoy the ceremony (actually it stood out, and I saw it as extremely positive. My daughter seemed completely unimpressed, which is pretty cool, because she accepts it on a level much deeper than I do). I saw plenty of messages on…

255 And wasn’t even going to play tonight but it was better then working on real work.