2020 Election Thread (Part 2)

Anytime Giuliani is involved there is going to be public humiliation and damage at some point or another.

When is that M’fr going to jail already?

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It just occurred to me that even though Giuliani and Sacha Baron Cohen are apparently arch-nemeses now, they do share one key quality in common: they are both willing to put themselves in situations that would cause nearly any other person on earth to die of embarrassment for the sake of playing to their audience.

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& another great. MUST have us some Ray Charles.

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At least we know there is one set of goons who won’t be joining Trump’s half-baked coup.

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The crux of the motion is:
-There is no right to an election free of error
-The bar for a cause of action for due process violations (election fraud/invalidating results) is really really high and Trump’s lawyers aren’t even close to making it. Even if their allegations were supported by evidence

Apparently it worked because Trump’s lawyers just withdrew their case in PA without the motion being heard.

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tenor

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I think the lawyers going into these cases are mostly embarrassed to be doing it. I mean, when you are there to say your observers weren’t in the room and the judge asks, “Did you have observers in the room?” and you aren’t ready for that question it’s not a great feeling. (Not giving these lawyers any credit or slack, they could avoid this embarrassment by not doing it)

But I don’t think the point of the court cases is to succeed. It seems like it’s theatre to drive fundraising, much of which is going to Trump’s new “PAC” which I assume is just a piggy bank for Trump.

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I agree. All eyes are on GA now because we’ll decide the make up of the senate now!

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This is a good idea for the party of Military Might ®. Let’s go after military voters! Yeah, that’ll show’em!

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This is something interesting that turned up online. Fox news did a massive poll of American voters right before the election, and thee are the policies and opinions that they found the American voter supported:

Full tables

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Call me an optimist, but I do think this time will be different due to the context of COVID. The only way to get clear of it at this stage is to 1. Test and trace like mad; 2. Provide massive support to people who test positive and their contacts so that they can properly isolate/quarantine. That means income support/ statutory job protection as well as comprehensive child and/or elder care. Eliminate all reasons someone has to break isolation/quarantine. 3. Income support for non-critical job functions. Stop the spread by truly getting people out of unnecessary work without fear of losing their jobs and/or going broke.

Once the above happens, along with an emergency public option added to the ACA, it will be very hard to backslide into austerity.

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Could you imagine if we were able to vote strictly for individual policies, and not for the party that we hope will enact those policies?

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It’s a good concept, but Uber writing an exemption in employment law for themselves in California with prop22 suggests that it’ll take more than that.

Also, in election fallout news:

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Also subsidize the living hell out of the vaccines and use the military for mass-distribution. There should be only 1 barrier to people getting a vaccine: that it cannot be produced fast enough.

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the tracking and follow up for a double dose vaccine is going to be a nightmare.

how do you track people without insurance, in a way that doesn’t result in ice deporting undocumented immigrants, in a way that includes migrant workers, or people experiencing homelessness?

in the us, it’s going to be a mess. we don’t have great infrastructure because we don’t have universal insurance

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It will fall on the shoulders of the public to individually assure that they get the vaccine on whatever schedule is appropriate. Want fun? Pfizer is 21 days, Moderna is 28 days, I don’t know off the top of my head what the rest are, but at least a couple are single dose also. I predict mass confusion. “Do you need another dose yet?” “I don’t know, do i?” “Which one did you get?” “The Covid one.” “Which Covid one?” “What are you talking about? The Covid-19 one!”
Yeah, this is gonna be fun.

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Oh, Giuliani is in charge of Trump’s actual campaign lawsuits now instead of just leading the PR blitz. That ought to turn things around.

President Trump has put his personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, in charge of his campaign lawsuits related to the outcome of the election, as well as all public communications related to them, four people familiar with the move said on Friday.

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Don’t tease us like that. :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

@anon27554371: I’m not happy to see them so close without a mask. :cry:

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