Much like Christmas itself, the imaginary war being waged upon it must continue to expand and engulf the surrounding holidays until all is naught but Christmas.
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Talk about lazy writingāthis is just a transparent rehash of the āMichael Cohenā story arc. They even recycled some of the dialogue (āyouāll have to ask Giuliani.ā).
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Rawstory is click bait hell.
Fool me once ā¦
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Maybe, but I suspect his main intent was to call him effeminate, because to the Alt-Reich women are inferior and any characteristics such as kindness and compassion that are stereotypically ascribed to them are to be repudiated. Their bigotry stems from their all-consuming insecurities.
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Fair enough, but lots of other outlets reporting the same story. Giuliani done been bussed.
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Fuck Thanksgiving. We should just let it go.
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Every year, I have peeps that go to an Indigenous Peopleās Sunrise Ceremony on Alcatraz to remember the ancestors;
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R&MLI was my favorite showFrom my childhood I recall their skits (ex: Frequent appearance of a General, with his idiot son singing praises to tge F-111) and R&Mās very candid non-skit straight to the camera critical/satirical observations re Viet Nam. I guess you had to be there.
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What the hell? Itās a goddamned harvest festival. What the hell do right-wingers thing āthe leftā is against? (or is American thanksgiving some weird celebration of killing black people?)
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It is a round-about celebration of killing Native Americans. āThank the almighty that we have been delivered to this land inhabited only be subhuman savages of no importance, so that we may eliminate the infestation and claim it as our own.ā (Or words to that effect.) So yeah, the right are quite correct that the left would like to, um, āchange the focusā of said holiday.
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Yeah, no, thatās not a thing, Trump. Thanksgivingās pretty much the one generically-enjoyed non-denominational holiday in America. Itās not racist, itās not about murdering anyone, itās not related to any sort of religion. Nobody on āthe leftā is trying to change it. If they are, they have the wrong idea.
Evidently Huffington Post ran an article about Thanksgiving with a vaguely āthink about the environmentā angle to it, which is all it took to kick off the entire right-wing outrage machine, which everyoneās favorite racist uncle president saw and then incorporated into his rally speech.
https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/world-war-t-how-fox-news-gave-trump-war-thanksgiving
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āSome Native Americans observe the National Day of Mourning on the traditional Thanksgiving holiday because the day serves as a reminder of colonizationās devastating impact on indigenous people.ā
Would you like to know more?
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I donāt want to come off as a dick or a reflexive defender of white traditions (plus I hate every holiday and all tradition). I really donāt know anything about American thanksgiving except that apparently racist uncles are present. Everything we do is tainted by imperialism and white supremacy, and I know that some things may have become emblematic of that so if some people find Thanksgiving to be a particular symbol of those things they might dislike thanksgiving.
But Trump is downright full of shit, right? I mean, unlike the āwar on Christmasā which is founded on people pointing out that not everyone is Christian, there just isnāt anyone who is like, āWe need to rename thanksgiving because the idea of giving thanks is too offensive to some people.ā
I was thinking, if anyone would go to war with thanksgiving, wouldnāt it be the right-wing? Mean, isnāt the idea of being thankful for the things that got you to where you are offensive to them? Iām sure itās offensive to Trump.
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Thereās an impressive amount of distance between these comments, both from posters whose opinions I generally agree with.
To make matters more complicated, Thanksgiving as we now celebrate it is freighted with Civil War History:
And it has an often-overlooked woman as one of its primary proponents:
I personally like Thanksgiving for the reasons that @nungesser sketched, but there is plenty in its history to deplore. Can it be both?
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Iām quite aware of the history of white people in the early part of this country and the terrible things they did to the Native people. Itās sad that Thanksgiving, which has come to be a time that we give thanks for our friends, family, and the food we get to enjoy together, also symbolizes that entire era of cruelty for them. But white people are not gathering for dinner to literally celebrate how shitty our ancestors were. Well, Iād hope not. Sigh.
Absolutely, we can be aware of the crappy things that religious missionaries did hundreds of years ago, refuse to use symbols of them (or Native people) as part of Thanksgiving ā something Iāve seen quite a lot less of in the last few years, thankfully ā and celebrate a day of time with friends or family for entirely different reasons. We donāt have to ignore the fact that our ancestors stole the land from Native people and that we were lied to as kids in school (āthey were bestest friends!ā) but that doesnāt make eating turkey and pie an inherently racist act.
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Iām writing this standing on stolen lands soaked in the blood of a genocide against the Indigenous people of my country that we havenāt really stopped yet. Thatās true at every moment of my life and in everything I do. So, yeah, I think it can be both.
But it seems like we need to be more thankful (not that actually being thankful is what I imagine thanksgiving is about for most people).
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The day trump dies will become Thanksgiving on my calendar.
Or just Piss on Graves Day.
Either way Turkey will be served hot.
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