- WAY more efficient per byte transferred
- WAY less ambiguous, usually
- does not rely on visual expression recognition
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You bipeds love beating dead horses, for sure. Make sure to play nice as I donât feel like eating a lot so close to dinner time.
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Ahem [Puts on Nice Player Face], so here we have someone saying that THEIR way of communicating (ârational,â âlogical,â âreasonable,â etc.) is the one RIGHT way to communicate. And a refusal to cross the bridge even halfway and try to interpret the other ways that other people prefer to communicate. Hmm, where HAVE I heard that kind of talk beforeâŚ
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No.
Thatâs not what happened.
Look at the reply chain because Iâm not sitting here and linking several different opinions/likes that show that when jamesnsc pointed out he was a white male the replys went to straight sarcasm and indifference.[quote=âwysinwyg, post:99, topic:73226â]
- Man gets defensive and claims that he is being derided for being a man
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The original poster (jamesnsc) has bailed on this thread because of the reaction he got⌠The ones that have gotten defensive are the ones that have seen this happen over and over and over and over and over. You keep saying there was an argument or discussion, not in this thread. It went from Iâm a white male and this is something I didnât know about directly to your opinion is invalid because white male. Iâm not offended if someone doesnât want to listen to me but Iâm tired of watching someone get beat up over things like this.
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The fair comparison for your patient isnât with Oprah, itâs with the female equivalent.
When women have serious medical issues, their husbands are more likely to divorce them than the other way around, leaving them with no adult support in their home: emotionally, physically, financially, and often even the insurance leaves with him. Unless, that is, their mothers, sisters, or daughters come help. Are there men who stay with their wives? Of course. Do some fathers/brothers/sons help their female relatives through medical issues? Yes. But statistically speaking, for any given medical condition a man is much more likely than a woman to have more family support, as well as a job with better health insurance, higher salary, and more flexible sick leave.
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I disagree.
Demonstrating that the discussion here has been ânot rationalâ would be proving a negative, so itâs unreasonable to place the onus on me to do so. Rather, I think you should be specific about what is not rational in this discussion. I think everyone has been making actual arguments and not going overboard with mockery.
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Your first response to jamesnsc involved the word âreaalllyâ. Your second response was a Harry Potter image macro.
Yes post 54 was full of great arguments and no mockery at allâŚ
So Iâm going to take my own advice here and do this:
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I didnât realize this was a thing, but I guess it is. I totally see it in Kanye, though I guess I need to research what some of the other people who are known for it look like.
I notice it mainly in old people. Some of them have a permanent scowl or grumpy face. I dunno of they had one in their youth, but age has left them looking perpetually pissed.
Though I have empathy for people who have this. You canât really control what your face looks like, but at the same time as social animals we take soooo many queues from facial expressions. And expressions are mostly ingrained into our being, they arenât a cultural thing. So if someone just resting looks smug, bored, what ever, we are going to assume that mood on their face is their actual mood and judge them for it - even subconsciously.
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Yes it is. I just went through it again.
This was @IronEdithKiddâs response to @jamesnsc:
The onus is now on you to explain why that is not what I described.
No, @jamesnsc did not say âIâm a white male and this is something I didnât know aboutâ. He said: âI just found out about this and itâs a stupid thing and not a real problem.â The response was: âYouâre a white male with no direct experience with this, so your opinion that it is not a real problem is suspect.â
You seem to be the one who needs to re-read the thread.
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Wow, one example. From someone who has so far completely failed to accurately represent the content of peopleâs comments in this thread.
And youâre telling me to stop posting.
How about you apply some of this logic youâre so big on and actually make an argument for your position?
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-that was directly at myself-
jamesncs was the first to bring color and economics into this thread where none was prior.
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Iâd appreciate if you responded to my post directly challenging you on your characterization of whatâs been said in this thread.
I think your accusations have been largely inaccurate, and I think it would be good of you to either acknowledge that fact, or show how I am wrong in my previous comment.
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Annnnnnd so . . . ?
You posted image macros here too. Are you know saying we should ignore them?
Sad that what youâre ignoring is my description of images and other ways of communicating as, you know, other peopleâs ways of communicating.
Presumably middle class white person who grew up talking like a middle class white person insists that middle class white ways of communicating are the best ways of communicating. How surprising (oops, is sarcasm âunreasonableâ and âillogicalâ as well?).
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Trying to subconsciously communicate actual information sounds like futility to me. It can be at least as easy to axiomatically not jump to conclusions about people, and not judge them in any case.
Need to know what sex, race, class, or mood (if any) to associate with a person? Easily done! Just ask them.
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#onthesameteam!
Whenever I hear people whining about how they get pulled over for being black, or denied a job because theyâre Jewish or canât get married because theyâre gay â Iâm like whatever! Wake me up when itâs not a problem Iâve had the misfortune of missing then having to read up on to stay current.
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Itâs all that pushing and pulling trying to get the damn camel through the eye of a needle, very wearing. (The original probably actually means mooring rope which makes a lot more sense, but if we started to address all the mistranslations in the Bible weâd be here a long, long time.)
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No⌠Thatâs pretty much the opposite of what I am suggesting. Without intention and a semantic layer of consciously constructed meanings, what can we communicate? Anything that basic might be robust enough for only very simplistic types of social relationships or structures.
A scent might tell you that youâd like to coordinate building a bridge because you detect food or mates there. But if people required you to use olfactory language to organize and build said bridge, the results might be âthe bad kindâ of interesting. But at least the project would keep you busy!
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Itâs actually a fairly easy engineering problem.
Just make a big enough needle.
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