Do you see people here who are? I see a bunch of people, frustrated and angry, but willing to back Biden over Trump, because we realize that he’s the least dangerous of the two. A Sander’s endorsement means a greater chance of the kind of change we need being included on the platform this fall.
I (and others) have said it before and we’ll say it again, if you want the DNC to move leftward, it’s us who have to make that happen. At this point, that is literally our only choice here. Unlike the GOP, the DNC can be moved.
See my previous comment above… I figured it covered that…
How about we not do that? Let’s stop blaming people who have for the majority of this country’s history been entirely disenfranchised, and only recently partial enfanchised, something which is right now as we speak, being rolled back for our current lack of progressivism.
You could easily replace that with “older southern democratic voter” and “strict social conservatism” and not bring race into it at all. I know plenty of democrat voters in the south who would be republicans if the republicans were more socially tolerant.
We did learn our lesson. Sanders endorsed her and we voted for HRC in higher percentages than her supporters did for Obama in '08, and yet we’ve been lectured to for four years by the I’m-With-Her’s how destructive we were.
So when it happens again this time we’ll cut straight to not giving a shit what they have to say.
i think some part of this has to be ascribed to barriers for younger voters. tuesday elections and long lines at many voting places do not a working person’s vote make.
that said, those same barriers apply to the general election and pragmatically “getting out the vote” is not about who would vote if they could, but who can vote easily - and maybe this primary has shown that the people who can vote most easily are older americans.
those demographics do support biden most, and so be it.
getting vote by mail in more places could help change things next time around
It’s the term the actual demographers use though. They’re a very solid Democratic voting block that is also quite socially conservative. They vote in primaries and live in states that vote by Super Tuesday.
That Wisconsin situation made me throw up in my mouth. Absolutely disgusting. On happier news my state (Virginia) which has historically been unusually hostile to absentee voting is opening up the process considerably this year.
if you want the DNC to move leftward, it’s us who have to make that happen
this gets harder every 4 years when you are on the ground doing everything in your power to make that change happen and it seems to do absolutely nothing. it’s exasperating when it feels like “us” doesn’t want the change in the first place.
If the prospect of stopping the wholesale destruction of our system of government and generations worth of civil rights and environmental protection doesn’t “excite” you, then you may need to ask yourself some hard questions.
I would certainly prefer it if our choices were between “stop” and “forward”, because that’s an obvious decision. But given that our choices are between “stop” and “drive backwards at 100 MPH off a cliff into a burning trash dumpster full of nuclear waste”, I’m still gonna have to vote for “stop” because the alternative is worse.
This will be the third centrist “stop first and then maybe we can go forward at [unspecified date]” in the 21st century, and I suspect that it will end the same as the other two.
Fortunately their attempt to do this in 2008 was killed in the primary by someone who could at least talk about progress, if not accomplish too much.
Me too. W’s approval rating was falling in the months leading up to the election, and only took a blip up in the last couple of weeks because of the attacks on Kerry.
The country is a hell of a lot changed from when I was a kid. Progress isn’t strictly monotonically increasing, but it does happen, usually thanks to pressure from below.
So let’s get this straight: southern black voters would vote more for the party responsible for defeating American slavery if said party hadn’t made disenfranchising them and playing to southern white racists a fundamental part of their political strategy since Nixon? The fools!/S
