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I would love that, but itâs difficult for me to even envision getting there when one side is running full out toward religious authoritarianism. The bar for the Dem being the lesser of the two evils in any election is SO LOW. I mean, Iâm not a particular fan of Biden, but heâs clearing that bar without breaking a sweat. In order to get out of the lesser of two evils loop you need to be able to trust that while it may suck, youâre going to get another shot at governing in 2-4 years time. Imagining that is very hard at the moment.
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Yeah, and thatâs because people arenât remotely doing lesser of two evils voting. The Republicans get in more than half the time. Thatâs the anchor thatâs dragging down American politics â stopping it would be step one, and we arenât there yet.
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1.6 x 10-40 m, give or take.
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I think that lots of people who are voting for the GOP believe that they are voting for the âlesserâ of two evils⌠But thatâs because theyâre buying up at least some of the Fox News propaganda about how âbadâ it would be under âdemocratâ rule. That their taxes would go up, their guns would be taken away, their white women assaulted, the country would be âflooded with illegalsâ and that schools would âindoctrinateâ their kids to hate God and white people⌠But they certainly donât think theyâre âextremistâ in their views. They ARE of course, because none of that is true. But they certainly believe that the âleftâ is the real threat to their âlibertyâ and âfreedomââŚ
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This exactly, itâs two different definitions of evil.
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Except one is related to reality and the other simply isnât. 
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Absolutely true. Far too often, people donât wake up until itâs far too late and lives are destroyed. Sometimes, they never wake up.
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Iâm not saying their definition is a good one, itâs delusional, but they absolutely think theyâre engaging in lesser of two evils voting.
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I think that many of them donât believe itâs good- they just think they know which side their bread is buttered on.
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May well be. Iâm only going with the Iowa in-laws Iâm stuck with for my sample here. My brother-in-law will absolutely unironically claim the Dems are the ones trying to end elections and do so with wording that got my first draft of this reply caught waiting for mod approval.
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It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.
Upton Sinclair
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Those two things arenât unrelated, though. A disappointing Democratic Party is the direct result of a fascist GOP.
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Maybe, but itâs been an ongoing problem since the 90s, with Clinton third-wayism.
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The injunction via a Trump-appointed judge is working by design. (Free access link.)
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I still donât buy the idea that any democrats are going to peel away and vote for this guy in the primary or the general election, and if he runs as a third-party candidate in the general election, heâs more likely to peel off votes from Trump or DeSantis or whatever asshole is on the (R) ticket.
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