Generic 2016 US Election Cycle Recycling Bin

That’s not what I’m claiming at all.

I’m claiming that it’s “conservative” to think that if your parents were “good people” for the time, and you have exactly the same values that your parents did, that you should be considered a “good person” in this time as well.

Conservativism seems rooted in the idea that what is right and what is wrong can’t, or shouldn’t, change. Progressivism, on the other hand, says that we must always find ways to be better.

Again, I’m not saying that their values themselves are conservative; I’m saying that their inability to critically examine those values and acknowledge they’re out-of-date is.

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I totally agree with you there, I just think that the claims made in their platform are logically inconsistent…well, OK, lies basically. I know you were quoting them. It’s been a long day and I don’t think I’m expressing myself well. Sorry about that!

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'Sokay. If I limited myself to posting only in those times when I was awake enough to be fully coherent, I’d purple monkey butterfly.

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And if the Republicans only wrote their platforms or otherwise formulated their policy while they were fully coherent, they’d be Democrats.

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Ouch!

*lolz

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Further on the WWE = GOP front

This guy:

hast won the Michigan Republican Primary election for State House Representative. He’ll be facing Abdullah Hammoud in a no-DQ match at November’s big PPV.

Apparently Clinton is reaching out to Condoleezza Rice, James Baker, George Shultz and Henry Kissinger. Looking for endorsements?

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/shudders

Vile.

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As I mentioned in another thread, I’m certain this is to court people who consider themselves old line Republicans/conservatives but have hit the end of their willingness to toe the party line with Trump. She’s not going to win if only the committed left-wing faction votes for her. She needs the Bell Curve bump in the middle.

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I get that, but there has to be a point at which that “committed left-wing faction” gets sick of the lip-service they’re getting. Clinton can try to build a coalition a mile-wide, but she can’t govern that broadly. Courting sane Republicans,yes. But Kissinger?

Maybe she’s just looking for statements from them about Trump being utterly unsuitable, rather than outright endorsements.

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That makes sense. I do think it’s a political move to get elected, not an indication of her future policy decisions.

The article’s so vague it’s hard to know what to make of it, though the response of “had not yet taken a position on Trump” sounds more like the Clinton campaign was trying to add to the list of GOP leaders condemning Trump. Not enough data to even know whether anything in there’s reliable. If Kissinger showed up on a podium stumping for Clinton I’d write in my (irrelevant) vote for Giant Meteor.

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This, from the Mayor of 9/11?

Under those eight years before Obama came along we didn’t have any successful radical Islamic terrorist attack in the U.S.

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I liked Joe Biden’s comment about Rudy Giuliani: “He uses a noun, a verb, and 9/11 in every sentence.”

This is why I know he knew what he was saying.:rolling_eyes:

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Fucksocks.

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Aw crap. Wasn’t her opponent Tim Canova? I liked him.

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Yep.

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After that entire shitstorm, she wins? Please tell me there’s an explanation for this more nuanced than just ‘Florida’.

[An aside: what happened to the Soldiers of Fortune avatar? I was diggin’ that.]

ETA: Oh, now I get it—ketchup. You heathen.]

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The Chaos Engine one? I’ll probably bring it back later.

But ketchup!

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