If you vote for Trump, then screw you

Perhaps you’re too close to the source. From out of country it seems like most of the vitriol comes from the liberals.
I think that most of the American media that the rest of the world sees is predominantly Democrat, so there’s that.
BB itself is constantly lambasting and lampooning Republicans. I don’t think I can recall an article here about Republicans that is in a positive light.

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Yeah, that’s not going to be an even bet. Especially since this is a bet I’m looking forward to losing. Badly.

Wanna bet hearts? Let’s bet some hearts.

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Do you have a suggestion for what such an article might be?

There have been some about Rand Paul and the 4th amendment, I think.

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On the one hand, BB has a contingent of left-wing editors and commenters so you’re going to see a crowd that’s drawn to that. On the other, if you spend some time reading more mainstream news sources that have open comment policies like, for example, The Atlantic or various local papers, you’ll see a strong contingent of the right that are foaming at the mouth. And to be more balanced against BB’s editors, if you go read comments on Breitbart, Free Republic, etc., you’ll see a kind of seething hatred and dehumanization of political opponents that’s unlike anything else I’ve seen. Hopping over to NPR, Slate, or HuffPo, the left wing contingent can be dicks, but the comments there are regularly inundated right-wing agitators there to bring the hate. Everyone’s dicks, but the Breitbart crowd, the neo-Nazi Trump backers, the MRA/Gamergaters, the right-wing Milo loving Twitter trolls, and compatriots - they take assholery to new levels IMO. If any leftists here engaged the way those people engage, they’d be banned fast and hard.

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This page should cover your first requested citation:

Unlike here, you can use CTRL-F (or CMD-F) to find your key words)

For the second, about “making nonsense BS sound like it means something”, it doesn’t for me, so I don’t believe I’ll be able to find a citation for you.

As far as Clinton not being good choice for president because she’s a policy wonk, I don’t understand. It seems to me that having a policy wonk for President is a good thing. In fact, I would consider that to be the prime requirement of a President, and is a primary reason in why I think Clinton will be a great President if she is elected.

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No, I just meant she’s more of a policy person than a charismatic leader or great public speaker. Just a statement of where her strengths are. And yes, I strongly suspect she’ll be a better president than candidate, in stark opposition to Obama in that regard.

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Ooh, there’s one indeed. They’re pretty rare.

“This is the Voice of World Control” A classic.

Also Rollerball, the one with James Caan, and Max Headroom.

Political power in this country has a real effect on real people’s lives. Their endless party gags are a legitimate danger to me, my friends, and loved ones. Their party defunded Planned Parenthood in Ohio, leaving poor Ohioans at risk of losing the one medical provider they can afford. They couldn’t outlaw abortion so they restricted abortion providers nearly out of existence in most areas. They’ve tried passing laws all across the country to make it so trans people have to drive all the way home to use a restroom.

They rendered the ACA more or less pointless in my state and many others through their control of state legislatures. They conned the Supreme Court into gutting the VRA and then turned around and tried to re-enact the racist voting laws we put a stop to in the civil rights era.

“Liberals” have taken it easy on them. Maybe that’s disrespectful, maybe it’s not. I don’t know (and don’t care … see @Melizmatic’s post). I won’t take it easy on them. I was genuinely insulted in 2012 when they demanded patriotism while they were running a shitshow for president of a country they claim to esteem.

Now they’ve accidentally gotten the joke candidate they’ve been toying at for years.

Here’s my respect for them: I will hold them accountable* for putting all our lives in danger.

* Accountable the way Sen. Warren is holding Wells Fargo accountable, not some vague threat.

There is a way to have a meaningful, consistent, and modern conservative philosophy. These folks haven’t heard of it and their ears would glaze over if someone tried to tell them about it.

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To add to your last point: most of my flags have been of comments earnestly condoning or encouraging severe, even lethal violence towards authority figures. I don’t care how anti-authoritarian you are—you cross that line, you can fuck right off.

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Ah, but therein lies the rub; many people only see what they want to see.

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Well, that’s because we have a don’t-push-your-luck dragon. Other sites fare less well without one, but I’ve seen it coming from both camps on various sites, news-clips, interviews etc. that’s why I agree with your dialogue, rather than abuse outlook.

@Jim_Kirk
It’s been a while since I watched that. Time to dig it out again. I don’t remember it having the same earth-shattering, stark realisation that Network or Colossus had though. Those two are genuine jaw-dropping eye-openers.

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I communicate regularly with people in a dozen different countries around the world. None of them are reading the situation the way you are.

If you’re getting your ‘news’ and commentary from a blog like this one and not reading WND, Breitbart, etc., then I suppose it could seem that way. Watch Fox News for a bit instead.

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If Trump wins, NATO will be replaced by NATO: the Not-American Treaty Organisation.

Seriously, if Trump gets up, I do not expect my country to be on the same side as the USA in the next big war.

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I agree about WND, Breitbart, Fox et al. But one only sees the underbelly if one goes scouring for it. In which case I find plenty from both sides. My original comment was aimed at the mr/s average who doesn’t go digging for all the tidbits, but rather gleans a background hum from their general media consumption. From popular TV shows to news programmes, it seems that most of the broader, general abuse comes from the Democrats toward the Republicans.

America does not have a “polarization problem”.

It has a fascist problem.

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I was badly beaten and gassed for protesting against the wars. There are photos of people cheering on the beatings and gassings. The right-wing press regularly denounced protesters as terrorists. I suspect it was right-wingers cheering on the beatings. At another anti-war event, I overheard some right-wing spokes, perhaps Michelle Malkin, calling for violence against protesters over the counter-protesters’ [Gathering of Eagles’s] sound system. I know there were later reports of attacks against protesters at that event. I haven’t personally overheard any of this, but there are also right-wing politicians calling for violence against trans people. And passing laws to try to out trans people. And you have Donald Trump trying to keep civilians from reining in police violence.

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Fox News is not frothing in the shadows. It’s frothing night and day through millions of household televisions across the country.

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Despite Conservatives’ constant complaints about the “mainstream media” Fox News is the single most-watched television news network in the country, so it’s more like “the bloated, horrifying over-belly.”

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Yeah, I know the word is sometimes misused for “any audible female voice” but in her case I think it’s the closest term that fits. If there is a word for something between bombastic and shrill, it would be that.