I was applauding his zing, not asking you to pick cherries.
Stay beautiful.
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I take you at your word. Are you not a man of your word? A conservative man defending right-leaning politicians from unjust smearing?
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There is printed homeschooling curriculum designed to train victims how to cope with their abuse. So, they know this is a problem and instead of going through legitimate channels they âeducateâ around it?
Seems to me the Dept. of Family Services should consider use of this curriculum to be a smoking gun when looking into family abuse.
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Your actual claim, the one I had hoped to see supported with citations, was more inflammatory, if I may use the word:
Ayers was a terrorist whose only regret was that he didnât succeed in burning a family to death.
I canât say that I expected evidential support, but there is always hope.
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The reports have Josh forcibly violating his sisters; his father gives him a stiff finger wagging; Josh continues with his own stiff finger-wagging activities because the family took no preventative action. Finally, after the later complaints, they sent him off to work for a church elder, and then to be counselled by a child-porn-collecting pedophile about the importance of not getting caught.
It doesnât seem to be a high priority for them. Not as much as hating gays and grifting, anyway.
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I was not defending Josh Duggar.
Definitely not! I agree with you about the potential for change
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The latest: an Arkansas judge has ordered the records of the 2006 investigation into Duggarâs activities destroyed. (Not sealed to protect the victims. Destroyed.)
Springdale Police spokesman Scott Lewis said Judge Stacey Zimmerman ordered the 2006 offense report destroyed Thursday. Zimmerman didnât return a request for comment Friday. âThe judge ordered us yesterday to expunge that record,â Lewis said, adding that similar records are typically kept indefinitely.
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âRelativelyâ conservative. Meaning Iâd be a conservative Dem or liberal Republican if either of those existed anymore. Sorry to confuse people by not fitting the binary choice.
Holy shit. This opens a can of worms.
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They do a fine job of smearing themselves by just being them. BTW, there is no doubt in my mind that at least some of these politicians are aware of some form of abuse going on, even if it has nothing to do with Josh Duggar himself directly. Some of them, the bigots they are, activity promote abuse in their political beliefs and policies.
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I bet youâre one of those âSocially liberal, fiscally conservativeâ people. Which is an impossible thing to be.
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Zimmerman turns out to be one of Huckabeeâs appointees and financial beneficiaries.
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âIF abused was not at faultâ??
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I hadnât known, at first, that the Duggars were connected to the Quiverfull movement. I was aghast when I first heard of Quiverfullâs beliefs, but then as far as I could make out, it seemed pretty marginal. Did the politicians actually express support for Quiverfull, or just for standard reactionary politics?
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Sorry, not exactly. But youâll take issue with any stance thatâs not precisely the same as yours, so no point continuing.
Well, itâs hard to know how you actually feel or what you actually believe in when you only throw around vague rhetoric while defending shitty people who took a picture with a molester of children, but hey. If thatâs the hill you want to die on, be my guest.
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In breaking news, Arkansas Judge Stacey Zimmerman has ordered the can welded shut.
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Some lessons I have learned from reading about the Institute in Basic Life Principles:
- Avoid any organisation offering counselling for sexual abusers and sexual-abuse victims if the founder is called âGothardâ.
- Avoid organisations where the main advice to sexual-abuse victims is âIt was your fault for tempting him. Feel repentance and allow Christ into you.â
- Avoid sexual-morality-enforcement organisations which are essentially job-creation schemes for the founderâs family, especially if the founderâs brother was eventually sacked for treating its secretaries as his personal harem.
- Avoid counselling / sexual-morality-enforcement organisations if the founderâs name frequently occurs in connection with words like âsexually groomingâ.
- âGothardâ. Ha.
It all seems weird. If you changed the names of the individuals to stereotypical Middle-Eastern ones, there would be an outcry about allowing this morbid, exploitative ethos and life-style to take root in the middle of ordinary decent society. Things like betrothing kids as early teens, swapping oneâs daughters / broodmares with neighbouring families⌠Just nope.
But the Duggarsâ milieu is all about the home-schooling, and the shrinking of government down to its basic core function of paying white families to have lots of kids⌠so there seems to be some overlap with standard reactionary politics Anyway, Huckabee et al were wrestling to get the Quiverfull endorsement.
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Huckabee? I think itâs just the standard reactionary stuff. I donât think heâs a quiverfull, but Iâm sure he courts support from that constituency, marginal as they are.
