This post aged well.
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Yet.
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Welcome to the BBS. May your stay here be educational.
You’re right- if Ocasio-Cortez were to run against a principled, articulate, small-government, fiscally conservative Republican she’d probably lose. But against the petulant, ineffectual, racist spendthrift currently in the White House? She’d mop the floor with him. Sadly, she is ineligible.
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Right now, perhaps.
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Sure, I agree. but I don’t feel a need to point that out on the internet 
Subtle but important distinction IMHO
Thanks for the pro-Kavanaugh opinion.
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As you say, yet.
I’m irritated by people who dismiss Ocasio-Cortez or lump her in with long shots and vanity candidates. Her accomplishment is real and remarkable and she will continue to be a force to be reckoned with.
2024 seems impossibly far off, particularly as we are trapped right now on a mœbius of disgrace and incompetence with the current occupant of the White House. But I see some small cause for hope in the midterm results- new faces, younger energy presaging better days ahead.
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and, please, don’t sit on the skewers.
Of course, but which woman and about what? We don’t know any details yet. (I think it’s safe to discard the TMZ stuff, which has run hit-job stories before, Scientology related. [No doubt they’ve run non-Scientology-related hit jobs, but that’s outside my focus.])
Los Angeles police said Avenatti was arrested Wednesday afternoon.
Officer Tony Im, a police spokesman, said the victim had visible injuries. He declined to provide details about the victim’s relationship to Avenatti.
As he walked out of the police station Wednesday evening after posting $50,000 US bail
As a privileged white male lawyer, I’m sure that LAPD will do all the obvious forensic tests. (Which should be normal for everyone but…) This isn’t a cold 20-year-old incident. Soon enough, we’ll have more to go on.
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Well, no.
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Yes. So maybe don’t comment at all, rather than pre-emptively say you currently are skeptical? 
I’m sure there will be more details come Thursday morning.
A force to be reckoned with? Perhaps, not every candidate who makes a splash in their first cycle translates to a politician with lasting national appeal. She still needs to get her name on some bills, navigate her way onto the cable talk shows, and successfully navigate all of the deliberately controversial bills she’ll inevitably need to take a position on.
But even if she succeeds as a politician she won’t be a Presidential candidate, at least not in 2024. Obama was “young” for the Presidency and he was 47, she won’t be considered a serious candidate at 35, probably not at 39 either.
Ocasio-Cortez’s path to the Presidency involves moving up to the Senate or a Governorship in about 10 years and then spending another 8 years of proving herself in that position. 2028 at the absolute earliest but 2032 is more likely the start of her run as a legitimate Presidential candidate.
She’s a good bet for the next-next generation of candidates, but the challenger to Trump is someone who’s established already.
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I can’t be skeptical, because there’s currently nothing to be skeptical about. Just saying.
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The police don’t take you into custody for “nothing”. I once punched a man in a bar, drawing blood. I wasn’t taken into custody, despite this and despite him and his friends claiming it was not self defense.
It takes more than someone claiming you did a crime, even with ambiguity, to go to jail for the night.
(Then again, I was calm, and while I told the officer that I had nothing to say without a lawyer present, I offered my ID and cell phone number and made it clear that if I was charged with something, I’d have no issue stopping by the station the next day… just not to talk.)
Frankly I think it goes against the spirit of the community guidelines to publicly speculate that a white man must be innocent of hitting his partner absent any evidence. A woman told the police she was assaulted and she had marks on her. The fact your discount these things is extremely puzzling.
Yes they do. Though I have no idea if that is the case this time. Usually it doesn’t happen with well connected rich people.
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Your personal experience is Anecdotal evidence. I think many would disagree.
That last paragraph… I think we should call it quits right there. Don’t reply please.
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Could have ties to known “Swatter” and all around idiot Jacob Wohl of “Surefire intelligence”
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I read Rachel’s reply to mean: We (the public/us forum people) won’t ever really know.
I figure it’ll all end up in sealed documents. Doesn’t matter what happened. Hopefully that won’t be the case. But if they settle, I’d expect the usual money-for-silence deal.
But, regarding your meaning (the use of excuses like “we weren’t there, so we can’t say…”), I’m in total agreement. When it comes to the case itself, in that court room, the details will (hopefully) be made known.
I’m the product of heavy abuse, so I tend to get a little riled up and personalize this stuff. I’ll try to be a normal person about it.
The second a finger is pointed in an abuse case, it makes it to the media, and that’s all anybody cares about. The guilty party has been “named”, and nobody wants to be on the wrong side of an issue like this. By this point, nobody wants to suggest that the potential abuser be given due-process.
At least that’s how it feels. My mother (my main abuser) was usually the one to call the cops, probably because she thought it would make her seem innocent.
I’m not suggesting that’s what happened here. My point is that I’ve seen abuse laws abused far more often than I’ve seen them properly enforced.
Of all people, my knee-jerk reaction is to point a finger, but it’s important that we not punish someone before it’s time.
It also opens the door to some lameness…
I probably am hypersensitive about this, but I think it’s in poor taste for some of the people here to have co-opted and politicized a domestic violence case as an excuse to make partisan jokes.
The news: “Woman may have been abused.”
The lame: “Ha ha! Republican joke! Ha ha!”
Yeah…
But no.
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I agree. So it seems weird that some posters are repeatedly posting that this must be “trumped up” or untrue, that there is “no evidence” the charges are true, etc.
I hope you cam understand my position (wait a day or so rather than make blanket declarations of guilt or innocence), but I think I’ve made my side pretty clear and will drop the issue rather than make people feel pestered.
Yeah, cause if there’s one thing this whole experience has taught us:
Trump’s accusers are the one’s who are the real problem.
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