(Did you miss Trump telling a rally that the only way he’d lose is if the vote is rigged?)
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You could have written the same thing 4 years ago… or 8…or 12… with just a couple of name changes. There’s always a crazy right wing core walled off from reality (a crazy left wing core too–though not as dumb or rabid IMO). Rush Limbaugh and his ilk have been capitalizing on that fact for ages. We just seldom get to see it in such stark and ridiculous glory.
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That is, again, certifiably untrue.
Are you illiterate and/or a troll? Please don’t keep lying. Please stop.
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Oh.
Huh.
All of the violence. Can I ask what news sources you’ve been using?
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Wouldn’'t he just hold a press conference, tell the media how much his supporters love their country, and then pay their legal fees?
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That might look violent to hippie liberals, but those pepper sprayers are simply defending freedom!
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What’s sad is that some people would unironically agree with you…
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Come now, this is America. Hacking people to death with machetes would annihilate your credibility with second amendment enthusiasts. We’d settle things as God and Eugene Stoner intended(for retro and/or Mormon audiences, John Browning is acceptable).
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Every time that there is a big hullabaloo about somebody who didn’t do the pledge of allegiance correctly, I fear that our country is doomed to Trumpism…
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It will especially help if all Democrats and allies remember to vote in two years as well.
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You’re not worried that a younger, better looking, more articulate, smarter demagogue will emerge from the ooze? Maybe “they” have always been ready, but now it seems that “they” are more numerous, more vocal, more motivated to vote than they have ever been. And the problem is, some good people can be fooled by a suitably packaged demagogue. One who isn’t as transparent as Trump, nor as obviously flawed in so many ways.
Can enough be fooled to elect such a person to high office in the US? I see no reason why not.
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The Logic Hole of Political Recursion Hell: Don’t elect the clearly stable and intelligent candidate, and Do elect the fearmongering bigot because otherwise you’ll get an even worse, more attractive/articulate/smarter demagogue.
Seems legit, as the kids today like to say.
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Not really. At least… not any more than I was before the Trump phenomenon. Of course, history tells us such a thing has to always be seen as a potential threat, but, if anything, this experience will serve as a bit of an inoculation in the near term.
I just don’t see how the (presumed) resounding rebuke of a demagogue–and the widespread ridicule of same–can be construed as anything but a net positive.
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I don’t advocate electing him, I just don’t see even a crushing defeat as a long-term defeat for demagoguery, only as a defeat for Trump.
It’s a positive, I agree, and I’d go so far as to say that Trump must be defeated.
But I’m not so sure that’s going to provide any kind of inoculation. I suspect you are in for a much tougher fight in four or eight years, when the next nominee will peddle the same wares only with some of the old trappings, like decorum and tested political techniques (ground game, etc.).
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Ha. No, that was never my suggestion. The violence brought on by a Trump loss will split the GOP apart, and that’s a good thing.
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Sadly, there will likely be some serious collateral damage during the aftermath of his loss.
I, too, am expecting a massive temper tantrum, with the backlash focused on the scapegoats of choice.
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You’re 100% correct, just look at who Trump defeated, Cruz is just one step behind him and the rest were not much better. This election is not about Trump being unique, it’s about a chunk of the electorate being ripe for anyone who’ll tell them the racist, “turn back the clock to when a white HS dropout was king” crap they want to hear.
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Josh Marshall at TPM: “The GOP is a failed state, and Donald Trump is its warlord.”
“Trump isn’t the leader of the GOP. He’s not trying to be. Historic party leaders - FDR, Reagan, possibly Obama - fuse party coalitions together on new and transformative terms. McCain or Romney may have failed to achieve that goal in its entirety. But Trump hasn’t even tried. He’s simply taken control of the largest constituency block and decided to rule it as his own. The party’s institutional apparatus was too weak to prevent it”
I fully expect the GOP to split apart post-election. Either moderates leave the party and become Libertarians and/or Democrats, or the crazies form their own party. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Trump form his own party, named after himself of course.
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Don’t underestimate how much power a hypothetical President tRump would have to dictate terms to the Justice Department and what that would mean for certain locales where enough people in authority felt like being a racist bully is fine - there wouldn’t be a whole lot of means of stopping them. The people supporting tRump are already angry. If he wins, they would feel that they now had free reign to declare open season on classes of people (to some degree, his candidacy alone has already done that). It would increase hate crimes, whatever ends up happening to the perpetrators - and that would be simply the visible tip of the iceberg of more subtle forms of racism and discrimination that the police wouldn’t be involved with (e.g. job and housing discrimination that would go unaddressed). Plus, of course, there are all the national and international problems that having an aggressively ignorant malignant narcissist would cause. I think it’s safe to say that a tRump presidency would actually cause some new wars, even if the US wasn’t directly involved in them.
tRump would have all sorts of excuses for why stuff didn’t get done the first term - anyone gullible enough to vote for him in the first place might be gullible enough to continue falling for it.
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