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Those Christians who call it the “immaculate conception” don’t know what the “immaculate conception” is.
The immaculate conception is MARY’S conception. She was supposedly born with out original sin.
I saw Ben Stein get this wrong on his game show once, and he was gobsmacked “Jesus” was the wrong answer.
The rest of the comic is true, from a certain point of view.
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Bouchard married the girl when she was 15. But divovered her three years later. She died by suicide.
Give me about two seconds and I be I’ll be able to hazard a guess why.
But what I say ad nauseam: Not a single Republican is truly decent. And certainly not Bouchard here.
douchebags sure stick together
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Okay, but
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Nobody? Won’t somebody think of the pedants???
18 years old are still very immature and I think it’s creepy as hell when people older than 30 get involved with people that young. Full grown adults shouldn’t hook up with teens even when and where it’s legal.
But 14? 14 years olds are much more immature than 18. They are closer to actual little children than just being teens. If you are 14 your reasonable dating range is 13-16. The 18 year olds are legally adults here and, by comparison, are yes actually young adults in maturity.
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California has a rule that it’s not automatic sex-offender status if you have sex with a minor and are only 10 years older than someone between the ages of 14 and 17, which seems creepy as fuck. Scott Weiner recently (rightly) got that amended so the same rules apply regardless of sexual orientation (anal and oral had been treated differently), but a 24 year old should be put up against a wall for dating a 15 year old, not excused from the sex registry.
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It should definitely be seriously illegal.
And I say this as someone who had a 25 year old “make out buddy” when I was 15. I was in a bad place emotionally at the time but even then I was so embarrassed by the situation that I didn’t tell any of my school friends and ditched him at the end of summer. I was mortified that my best friend thought the whole thing was cool. (She was terrible.)
He was too dumb to really call manipulative, although he was probably trying to be, but he was absolutely taking advantage of a depressed and lonely kid that should have looked like a literal child to him despite the new tits. And he knew that my home life was messed up before we met.
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Grown people who perpetually date individuals that are too young for them often have emotional and/or developmental issues, but that’s no excuse for what boils down to predatory behavior.
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There’s so often a messed up home life in those kinds of situations (and would imagine the woman exploited in this situation had that, too) – not an excuse but a big correlation.
I hope you’ve found your way.
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It is interesting to see how different cultural imprints will shape our perception of such a question. I used to know girls who went out and probably had sex with older boys when I was a teenager around that age and never thought much of it. The age of consent in my country, as in many other European countries, is 14, so no legal implications either. If the girl in this case had been 13, I would personally feel differently about it.
Also maybe worth mentioning, in Austrian law specifically, it is stated that if the younger party in the relationship is under the age of 16, in the event of a court case on sexual abuse, the mental maturity of the younger party would be considered before reaching a decision.
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I mostly agree with you on a personal level. I have always viewed intimate relationships with large age difference as creepy. Nevertheless, it seems obvious to me that a 14 year old - 18 year old relationship cannot be called the same thing as sexual abuse of a young child. One thing is creepy and probably unhealthy, the other is among the most monstrous crimes imaginable.
Cool and all that we have these ranked, but probably unhealthy seems like it might be a bit of an understatement in a case where the girl killed herself.
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I knew plenty of girls who dated older boys. The boys were creepy and manipulative, often abusive. They were usually terrible about birth control and responsible for most of the high school pregnancies.
I’m the product of exactly that kind of relationship. My manipulative and condom hating 21 year old dad knocked up my already emotionally messed up and unstable 16 year old mom. (She was bipolar and has been abused as a small child.) She turned 17 before the actual birth. They had a shot gun wedding and broke up when I was 9 months old. She’s in her 50’s now and has never really had any healthy relationships.
I don’t personally know any healthy relationships that came out of this kind of young age gap, I’m sure some worked out at some point but it’s a bad place to start.
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I’m pretty sure the rule is “Don’t have sex with 14-year-olds, no matter how old you are.”
So its okay to rape the smart girls?
I’m disturbed by the equivalence I’ve seen in this thread of “dating” and “having sex”. I’d say it isn’t necessarily a bad thing for a 14-year-old to date a 16-year-old as in hang out and hold hands and maybe kiss at the movie theater. I’d still be very much against them having sex.
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I’m sorry to hear that. I also think that in most cases, such relationships are ill conceived and ill fated. I do personally know one couple though that came together in school at age 14 and 17 and are still together, happy with two children at 40 and 43 today.
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Yes it’s better to wait a bit before becoming sexually active, but when two kids that are actually the same age get sexually involved then there is no crime, just questionable choices.
It is unfortunate that we get sexual feelings in early puberty long before we finish developing both physically and emotionally but it’s the reality we have to cope with.
The crime and the moral wrong come in when someone who is more mature takes advantage of a younger person.
Edit: I completely get why it’s disturbing and upsetting to think of children doing anything sexual but it’s not something you can actually legislate away. You can and should restrict your kids from dating too early, encourage good choices, teach them about autonomy and consequences and consent. But you can’t watch them every minute and some are going to experiment anyway,
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Apparently Romeo cared more about his wife’s death than this guy did, though.
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Stefanic replaced her in her leadership job, but this guy is going to run against her for her seat in Congress.
Sure but applying some wacky “half-your-age plus seven” rule to the situation is entirely missing the point. It’s a standard that is basically about social decorum whereas the decision for any adult to have sex with someone who is 14 is doing something far worse than ignoring the ick-factor. The problem of a 50-year-old dating a 31-year-old is not the same problem as someone having sex with a 14-year-old.
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