Unite the Right Jason Kessler was punched, attacked and chased at press conference

[Mindysan33]

@Brainspore

going all dracarys

In that case, entirely justified…

Also…

[hecep]

Check out his Zoot Cat; the classic among classics.

The Zoot Cat 1944 with original recreated titles by cartoon98100 - Dailymotion

[hecep]

“Unite the Right Jason Kessler was punched, attacked and chased at press conference”

I think he was chased because the crowd wanted him to answer a couple of questions on how he felt about being punched and attacked. To Kessler, I suggest that he stick around longer for the post-punch/attack question session.

[FrontierJustice]

[GulliverFoyle]

@Mister_Eppy

The original anti-fascists:

The original anti-fascists were Italian and German resistance groups. They lost. Then there were the partisans in Austria, Poland, ect… some of whom had partial success.

But the Western Allies were of course welcomed to the fight as they decided to join the fray already well underway.

Not trying to snark at you. Just using you comment as a jumping off point to remind that resistance starts at home.

[anon75430791]

Depends, do you think your average Republican would look at that photo and see “Violent Leftists”?

I see the guys with the flags getting the photo op they wanted. Even though the guy sure as hell deserved to lose those eyebrows.

[Brainspore]

@anon75430791

Depends, do you think your average Republican would look at that photo and see “Violent Leftists”?

If this weekend has demonstrated anything it’s that the average Republican can see “Violent Leftists” in pretty much any photo showing people of color standing their ground against white supremacists.

[Melz2]

@Brainspore

the average Republican can see “Violent Leftists” in pretty much any photo showing people of color standing their ground against white supremacists.

[anon74729030]

Wait, am I looking the Breitbart comments on the dead woman? It just seems strangely familiar.

[LDoBe]

Did the dead woman go to the march to make it known that, say, white people shouldn’t exist, and that something should be done about it?

Cuz that’s what white supremacists are marching for with regard to quite a few races and ethnicities.

Advocates for genocide shouldn’t get sympathy. For the same reasons you don’t feel sympathetic toward a psychopath who didn’t get a chance to eat their victim.

[Melz2]

@anon74729030

Wait, am I looking the Breitbart comments on the dead woman? It just seems strangely familiar.

Is Jason Kessler dead???

No?

Then false equivalency is false, and it’s also disrespectful as fuck to the woman who did die.

I didn’t punch him, but I don’t feel sorry for him either, and nothing anyone here posts is going to change that.

[the_borderer]

What about CNT-AIT/POUM/the International Brigades in 1930s Spain?

[Wanderfound]

https://twitter.com/capuffin/status/896543900604653569

[Wanderfound]

@anon75430791

‘‘Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. The beauty of nonviolence is that in its own way and in its own time it seeks to break the chain reaction of evil’’

(Martin Luther King, Where, 62–63).

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. on the White Liberal

[Wanderfound]

@Mister_Eppy

The original anti-fascists:

Premature Anti-Fascist

I first heard the remarkable phrase that serves as my title in 1946 when, fresh out of the US Army, I went up to New Haven, Connecticut for an interview with the chairman of the Yale Classics Department, to which, taking advantage of the generous provisions of what was popularly known as the GI Bill, I had applied for admission to the graduate program for the Ph.D. in Classics. I had submitted a copy of my certificate of the BA I had received from St. Johns College, Cambridge in 1936. I did not make any mention of the fact that I had made rather a mediocre showing in the final part of the Tripos, ending up with a second class (at least, I comforted myself, I did better than Auden, who got a third, and Housman, who failed completely). To jazz my application up a bit, I had included my record in the US Army, private to captain 1942-45. The Professor, who had himself served in the US Army in 1917-18, was very interested, and remarked on the fact that, in addition to the usual battle-stars for service in the European Theatre, I had been awarded a Croix de Guerre a l’Ordre de l’Armée, the highest category for that decoration. Asked how I got it, I explained that, in July 1944, I had parachuted, in uniform, behind the Allied lines in Brittany to arm and organize French Resistance forces and hold them ready for action at the moment most useful for the Allied advance. “Why were you selected for that operation?” he asked, and I told him that I was one of the few people in the US Army who could speak fluent, idiomatic, and (if necessary) pungently coarse French. When he asked me where I had learned it, I told him that I had fought in 1936 on the northwest sector of the Madrid front in the French Battalion of the XIth International Brigade. “Oh,” he said, “You were a premature anti-Fascist.”

I was taken aback by the expression. How, I wondered, could anyone be a premature anti- Fascist? Could there be anything such as a premature antidote to a poison? A premature antiseptic? A premature antitoxin? A premature anti-racist? If you were not premature, what sort of anti-Fascist were you supposed to be? A punctual anti-Fascist? A timely one? In fact, in the '30s, as the European situation moved inexorably toward war, the British and French governments (the French often under pressure from the British) passed up one timely opportunity after another to become anti-Fascist. They did nothing when Adolf Hitler took Germany out of the League of Nations and began a massive rearmament program (except that the British government negotiated an Anglo-German Naval Treaty that gave Hitler the right to build the U- boats that, in the early '40s, came close to starving Britain into surrender). No action was taken when Hitler reoccupied the Rhineland, demolishing the buffer against an invasion of France created by the Versailles Treaty. They allowed Hitler and Mussolini to supply Franco with planes, tanks, guns and troops, while enforcing a so-called Non-Intervention Agreement that cut off supplies to the Government. They remained silent while Mussolini conquered Abyssinia and Hitler annexed Austria. And in 1938, they sold down the river for a ludicrous illusion of Peace in Our Time the only strong, democratic state in Eastern Europe that might have been a deterrent to Hitler’s plans for expansion, the Czechoslovak Republic. You couldn’t call Chamberlain, Daladier and Laval ‘timely anti-Fascists’. They declared war on Hitler in 1939 as he invaded Poland, a declaration that gave no help to the Poles, who were crushed between the armies of Hitler from one side and Stalin from the other. So what kind of anti-Fascists were they? My French maquisards had a phrase for the Frenchmen who, in 1944, as the Allied armies broke out of the Normandy pocket and raced across France in pursuit of the retreating Wehrmacht, finally tried to join the Resistance. Resistants de la dernière heure was their contemptuous name for them - ‘last- minute anti-Fascists’. It is a perfect description of Neville Chamberlain and Lord Halifax.

But in 1939, last-minute was too late. Too late to save the millions who died in the death camps; too late to save the soldiers and sailors who died in the campaigns in Russia, the Middle East, North Africa, Italy, France and Germany, at Pearl Harbor, Midway, Guadalcanal, Peleliu, Okinawa and many other places Americans had never heard of; too late to save the civilians who, like the inhabitants of Guernica, died under the bombs in Rotterdam, London, Hamburg, Berlin, Dresden and Hiroshima. It would have been better to be premature.

From http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/scw/knox.htm

[Wanderfound]

@ficuswhisperer

Unfortunately for them, it backfired bigly.

Citation required.

The Nazis are celebrating; the rally achieved its purpose in their view. Intimidation, escalation and murder is what they are going for.

[Melz2]

@Wanderfound

Intimidation,

They failed on that count; most people I know are more determined than ever.

When people like them protest/march they draw thousands.

When we do it:

I’ve told you before, and I’ll say it again:

I may not be out there ‘getting arrested for the cause’, but I will never give up.

[One_Brown_Mouse]

@Wanderfound

Intimidation, escalation and murder is what they are going for.

Thing is, the violence came off as very one sided. They showed up to play victim, but it didn’t go that way.

As a movement they sort of sat on their own balls over the weekend.

[One_Brown_Mouse]

@anon74729030

Wait, am I looking the Breitbart comments

You can get back to those whenever you like. Wipe your feet next time you come in?

[Wanderfound]

@Melz2

I may not be out there ‘getting arrested for the cause’, but I will never give up

Good, and thank you.

My objection is not to people protecting themselves, or following their own best judgement as to tactics. My objection is to the fantasy that the situation is going to magically resolve itself via the courts/Congress/midterms without ordinary people taking effective action.