Exactly. One’s sense of self-integrity and idealism is irrelevant this election. That’s not sarcasm. There’s a lot at stake. Vote for Clinton. No whining.* The morning after, you can start raising hell with your representatives and push them to raise hell in Congress. Again, you want change? Start with the legislature.
*ETA: Okay, I guess a little whining is fine. Better to transduce that frustration into action, though.
Survive another 4 years and take action to affect change. Vote. Vote often. Become an activist.
It starts with you.
Libertarianism is Tinkerbell economics - it only works if everyone claps their hands and believes.
I guess? Not to say that a smaller, less invasive government isn’t a good thing. I believe that it is. On the other hand, there’s a lot to the most popular instantiation of libertarianism that requires trying to hand-wave away social injustices. I’m with the libertarians until they get to that point.
Third party voters’ logic absolves them of responsibility: they’ll blame “the system.”
Not making friends or gaining votes by being condescending about other people’s belief systems, you know.
…and I’ve already heard “Hitlery must lose” three times this morning. You are not distinguishing yourself from your opposition in any way - same manipulative fearmongering. Go with your candidate’s strengths, instead - if you want to win votes.
This appears to be true. My libertarian cow-orkers are freaking out about it.
100% false. (I actually converted two former Hillary Clinton voters to Jill Stein voters by using a series of posts on bOINGbOING that make this fake claim. It plays to the stereotype of Democrats as habitual liars who will do or say anything to win.)
Yup. If you want to change the political outlook of an ethical person, you have to show that their candidate is better than who they are voting for, in their own terms, instead of assuming that your own utilitarianism and fear will be more palatable than the sociopathic “rational actor” crap that fuels people like Johnson.
I mean, some people aren’t afraid. You aren’t going to reach them by pounding harder on the fear button, it just won’t work.
I guess the way I see it is that voting is the least any citizen can do to participate in this ongoing social experiment we call representative democracy. The consequences of your vote matter, as do the consequences of your activism. The difference is that there is relatively little restraint in how you express your support for change in the latter.
This. Clinton couldn’t give less of a fuck about the average person or about true liberal causes, and she shows it. Meanwhile, Marmot Head Hitler comes across like just another average guy, like somebody’s drinking buddy, even though he’s the furthest thing in the world from that and actually manages to care even less than Clinton.
Get your own disappointment!
No! I stand outside the system, clean, only peering in every four years to complain about how it doesn’t reflect my needs.
Everyone clapping is Socialism!*
I find they’re the most boring because they’re the most predictable. Everything’s a conspiracy, that’s their story. Late for work this morning? Conspiracy. Lose a sock in the dryer? Conspiracy. Alex Jones himself? Conspiracy.
No - that’s where everyone has the clap!
Clinton’s a symptom too. The diseases is called Citizens United.
She seems to care a lot about the average person and liberal causes. Have you heard anything she has said or followed anything she has done in government that indicated otherwise? What’s your yardstick?
He’s basically been a Libertarian since he washed out of the Republican primaries during the last go round. The libertarian Objectivist fanboys hate him because they don’t consider him a real Libertarian, and the Republicans certainly don’t consider him a Republican anymore, so he’s in no man’s land.
Probably – but finding them is going to be difficult. Modus probably keeps them with his collection of Internets, and the storage building is not exactly well-organized.
You mean 1965?
That straw man you’re selling? Buy it I don’t.
