Why I'm Voting For Gary Johnson And Why You Should Too

“End of civilization” may be hyperbole, but this situation is NOT like any previous election. All living US Presidents, Democrat and Republican, are united against Trump. He is the first major party candidate in history to have zero record of public service. His presidency is a terrifying prospect in unique and unprecedented ways.

I didn’t want John McCain or Mitt Romney to win, but I still could have imagined either of them occupying the White House without necessarily leading our nation into disaster. Not so with Mango Mussolini.

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Except in states that are likely 100% safe for Trump such as Texas. Then it becomes an effective vote for Hillary

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I liked John McCain. Just not his running mate. McCain was relatively sane, had a history of bi-partisan efforts, and called “Bullshit” on the whole torture is a good thing ideas running around at the time. .

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2000 McCain would have been okay.

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And if it weren’t for McCain, we would have never had this:

(Not sure if that’s a good or bad thing)

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McCain would have gotten us into Afghanistan after 9/11 (any president in office would have done that, even Gore). But we would not have been in Iraq.

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Ditto. I always thought McCain seemed like a generally decent human being even though bits of the campaign brought out some pretty serious flaws. His lack of judgment in choosing Sarah Palin was one. But in my opinion the point at which he really sold his soul was when he softened his stance on torture in order to appeal to the Republican base.

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That was unforgivable. Especially given his history as a POW. About as craven as one can get.

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Possibly Iran though.

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Thanks! I’m glad you can see the point, regardless of whether you agree or not.

What I was trying to explain, perhaps badly, is probably best illustrated by example: one of my cow-orkers is a Johnson voter. He lives in New Jersey. I know him very well; if I convince him Johnson is a bad candidate - which I could probably do - he’s not going to vote for Clinton or Stein, he will hold his nose and vote Republican. So I am not going to tell him about how Johnson’s support for private prisons is antithetical to his own personal concerns about the school-to-prison pipeline; it might hurt Ms. Clinton’s chances without gaining me anything at all. See? I’ll wait until after the election. I honestly don’t know how NJ will vote; they elected that corrupt clown Christie, after all.

As previously explained, I live in the second smallest state in the union. Every day I work with people from a minimum of three other states. I frequently go to meetings where there are people from five other states. Delaware will go for Hillary Clinton unless the people in New Castle County seriously screw up with the voting machines or she has another public collapse and also completely flubs the debates.

Using your reasoning, that vote for Johnson is one less Republican vote. Using my reasoning, there’s no point in converting people who will never vote Green. Let them scrap among themselves.

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Nah, the practicalities of doing so are far more difficult than Iraq was. Plus Iran backed Shia proxy forces don’t exactly get along with Al Queda/ISIS/Boko Haram Suuni forces. At best just a continuation of the passive aggressive sniping we have with them since 1979.

Just in case anybody is seriously thinking about voting For Gary Johnson:

“Here are 12 ways Gary Johnson is a hardcore right-wing radical”

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/here-are-12-ways-gary-johnson-is-a-hardcore-right-wing-radical/

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I don’t know about that; I saw him in a debate with Jill Stein and he wasn’t the one who seemed to have a tenuous grasp of reality.

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Solidly Blue. Trump has pissed off too many large swaths of the state population to hope to carry it.

Christie was voted in because he ran against the worst governor the state had…until him. He was re-elected because his opponent ran a shitty campaign and most of Christie’s most egregious crap didn’t come out until later. NJ also elected Cory Booker who is by most standards a pretty decent senator.

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You can’t even trust his ‘platform’ he lists on the web. Gay marriage for example. He’s for it…but thinks the federal government shouldn’t protect gay peoples rights.
Everything he says are just his toothless opinions and wouldn’t be backed by public policy or law.

In the debates he flat out said as much that he’d leave civil rights issues up to the states.
Yes, because leaving civil rights up the states has always worked out.

Sound familiar?

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A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Donald Trump. Period, end of story.

I think that was the movie Dumb and Dumber.

No.

“Libertarianism” is a form of capitalist dictatorship, where the business owners can tell you how to live your life if you want to have enough money to survive on.

Unless you are talking about libertarian-socialism, which also isn’t entirely accurate but anarchism is a form of libertarianism in that case. However, that doesn’t make any sense in context.

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Rob this is hysterical I can’t think of a more fitting candidate for you, a man who notoriously said, “At least no one got hurt!” After a bomb went off injuring 29 people in NYC. Or when he couldn’t figure out what Aleppo was when asked by an interviewer. Amazing considering that city has been in the news for about five years. Then there is that pesky liberalism of his like being pro refugees, pro gun control, pro climate change (btw, we’re now at well over a thousand scientists who admit that is a bogus thing), the man is a walking, talking joke and as such the most fitting person to take your vote and waste it.

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Like many libertarian candidates I have moments of “Yeah! I agree! Totally” but then they keep talking and I want to run away in terror.

Yeah I end up taking the slightly disappointing over the “Oh dear god no!”

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